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Glenn Ligon, a black visual artist who is openly gay, recalls that as a child coming of age in the 70's, he always felt there was a space in black culture for openly gay men. The white community wasn't that accepting of us. And the black community had to protect its. Ligon, whose artwork often deals with sexuality and race, thinks that the pressure to keep homosexuality on the DL does not come exclusively from other black people, but also from the social and economic realities particular to black men.

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Ropafter female congregants of Cleveland's Antioch Baptist Church told their pastor that they were H. Still, the black church -- like many in white America -- is careful not to condone homosexual behavior. Combating AIDS in these communities Free chattanooga sluts means confronting popular conspiracy theories that claim that H. One study in the 90's by the Southern Christian Leadership Conference found that 54 percent of blacks thought H.

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When I ask him about this, he's stumped to explain why.